Like the title says my girlfriend wants me to teach her to play. Which is great :-D.
Here's where i need help however. What army do i give her to play with and what do i take against it?
I thought i'd start off with just 500pts and at the moment I've got access to high elves, dark elves, wood elves, empire and of course dogs of war.
I thought a seaguard themed high elf army might be best for her to learn the basics, while i take the dogs and probably let myself get shot to pieces ;-)
What do people think?
500 points is a great place to start, a few units to get the hang of the game. I do agree that empire or high elves would be the best for her to start out with. however, if you can let her pick the army, one that she like the looks of or likes the sound of it. as for the game part go easy on her but don't roll over, nobody likes a game given to them, just pull your punches alittle.
When my wife learned she played O&G and I played Empire, but she also played Lizards and ended up starting an army of them too.
I'd suggest playing Empire (her) vs Dogs (you) under Flash rules (500 points) or no magic 1000 points for a game or two before going with magic.
The women in Warhammer I know (My wife, 2 friends and Kera) 2 are Lizardmen Players, 1 Plays Skaven and Kera I believe plays Pirates, Empire, Slayers and Chaos Dwarfs.
Why don't you let her pick which models she likes best, and then make a couple BFSP-size armies to play with?
Give her a very complex army, while you bring twice as many points in an Empire gunline. That'll fix the problem right quick...
(08-10-2009 11:56 PM)Sharkbelly Wrote: [ -> ]Give her a very complex army, while you bring twice as many points in an Empire gunline. That'll fix the problem right quick...
Are you insane?
The object is to get them to like it so they will play, or in my case help paint my models, the game.
Keep the first few games small and simple and gradually bring in more complex rules and more points.
(08-11-2009 12:04 AM)BilboBaggins Wrote: [ -> ] (08-10-2009 11:56 PM)Sharkbelly Wrote: [ -> ]Give her a very complex army, while you bring twice as many points in an Empire gunline. That'll fix the problem right quick...
Are you insane?
Crazy like a fox!
Maybe he doesn't want her to be nosing into his game.
(08-11-2009 12:27 AM)JohnHwangDW Wrote: [ -> ]Crazy like a fox!
Maybe he doesn't want her to be nosing into his game.
From his first post he seems to be very happy with the possibility.
Of course hopefully nobody tries to steal her away.
(08-11-2009 12:38 AM)BilboBaggins Wrote: [ -> ] (08-11-2009 12:27 AM)JohnHwangDW Wrote: [ -> ]Crazy like a fox!
Maybe he doesn't want her to be nosing into his game.
From his first post he seems to be very happy with the possibility.
Of course hopefully nobody tries to steal her away.
Indeed i'm happy about it, its far better than having a someone who'd moan about me playing with toy soldiers
I guess i'll let her have a look through the army books tonight then go from what she likes best and come up with some lists but i'll definalty rule out magic and maybe psychology to start with.
Totally, I think letting her nose through the books, find an army that she likes the look of, with fluff that she can get behind is half the battle.
(08-11-2009 04:19 AM)Uryens de Crux Wrote: [ -> ]Totally, I think letting her nose through the books, find an army that she likes the look of, with fluff that she can get behind is half the battle.
I agree on this. My girlfriend started playing about a year ago. When she stated she wanted to start playing as well the first thing I did was taking her to our game day, letting her speak with al my gaming buddies to get a grip on what army has which kind of fluff. When she had enough of that I went into the shopping area of our gaming club and went trough the model boxes with her to see which she liked. She chose Lizardmen because of the models and fluff and has been happy with it ever since, even WHEN i win, which i have to admit is not often. (Darn Stegadons are hard when you play a full out combat Skaven army without shooting
).
So to cut the story short. Let her pick the army. Play simple battles at first, introducing rules slowly and be gentle with it. (Just don't nag about a quarter of an inch or anything, instead give her the advantage in case of doubt.)
Grtz. Kiev
(08-11-2009 10:35 AM)Kievien Wrote: [ -> ]So to cut the story short. Let her pick the army. Play simple battles at first, introducing rules slowly and be gentle with it. (Just don't nag about a quarter of an inch or anything, instead give her the advantage in case of doubt.)
Grtz. Kiev
Basically i need to remember how i was taught all those years ago
I'm just kidding. Now, if she asks to start painting models for you to put in your army...
(08-11-2009 12:03 PM)Maeglin Wrote: [ -> ] (08-11-2009 10:35 AM)Kievien Wrote: [ -> ]So to cut the story short. Let her pick the army. Play simple battles at first, introducing rules slowly and be gentle with it. (Just don't nag about a quarter of an inch or anything, instead give her the advantage in case of doubt.)
Grtz. Kiev
Basically i need to remember how i was taught all those years ago
yep,plus if she is only doing this to either better understand or spend time with ya. its alittle easy to get new models when the miss don't bug ya about it.
My girlfriend (then, wife now) once said she'd learn to play Warhammer.
But, since I was far too proficient with the armies I possessed, she wanted something entirely different.
After some discussion we settled on lizardmen. Of course, I don't want to play with unpainted figs, she said.
So I said I'd paint them. 2000 points of lizzies. Each type in a different colour for clarity (move the skinks.. them little green dudes.. to protect the Slann... the orange toad...). I painted them all in 3-5 weeks' time, which is really fast for me. Later I found out she thought she was off the hook for 6 months, and when push came to shove, she didn't want to play anyway...
Well, I got another army out of it...
(08-12-2009 03:29 PM)warhammerlord_soth Wrote: [ -> ]Well, I got another army out of it...
Easy to explain to your oponent as well.
the orange thingy is my slann, the little green dudes are skinks
She's bought be some waywatchers before
Anyhow she had a look at some of the army books today and it seems skaven, slaaneshi daemons and dwarfs (maybe slayers!) are possibilties at the moment.
(08-12-2009 06:48 PM)Maeglin Wrote: [ -> ]She's bought be some waywatchers before
Anyhow she had a look at some of the army books today and it seems skaven, slaaneshi daemons and dwarfs (maybe slayers!) are possibilties at the moment.
Skaven!!! Oops... I let that slip out there for sec
It's the army I usually play with, but hey I'm still here to build myself a Dogs of War army, ey?
Grtz. Kiev
What can i say she likes rats!
I've got a unit of clanrats, warlock engineer and an assassin so it i don't need too many more models to bring it up to 500pts, which i'd happily gift to her. Any suggestions for a list?
BTW have you built yourself some rat rider fast cav yet?
(08-12-2009 09:20 PM)Maeglin Wrote: [ -> ]What can i say she likes rats! I've got a unit of clanrats, warlock engineer and an assassin so it i don't need too many more models to bring it up to 500pts, which i'd happily gift to her. Any suggestions for a list?
BTW have you built yourself some rat rider fast cav yet?
Hmmmz... Let's see using your models and a few more this is what I would come up with :
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Warlock Engineer
Upgraded Warpenergy Condensor + Warp blades (the other upgrade isn't usefull unless u have 2 Engineers)
Storm Daemon
Warpstone Charm
Assassin
Warpstone Amulet
20 Clanrats
Standard + Musician (Champion doesn't have any real value in my opinion since I tend to use the "Lead from the back" rules to save my character from nasty surprises)
Ratling Gun
5 Gutter Runners
Poisoned hand weapons
pts. total = 495
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This is sorta the list I use for 500 pt battles. It has a main ranked unit, with supporting fire and magic AND a neat Scouting Force which (if placed correctly and with a little luck on your side in deployment) could make a first turn charge into your enemy. (Same tactic as used by Dark Elves)
Hope this helps ya a bit
Grtz. Kiev
P.S. *whispers* No... I don't have Rat Cavalry yet :O
A topic like this really belongs in the Back Alley. Thread Moved.
Bla bla bla get here dwarfs she will love them !!
Also for thows who have gf or wifes that play warhammer get her to join the site !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(08-13-2009 07:52 PM)Kera Foehunter Wrote: [ -> ]Bla bla bla get here dwarfs she will love them !!
Also for thows who have gf or wifes that play warhammer get her to join the site !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hehehe
I am still trying to pursuade my wife to part with her 1st ed (yes, pre slotta) Bugmans Rangers she has...
Smart woman as long as she has her bugsman figure. (she owns you)